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Sunday, December 1, 2013

Tarun Tejpal of Tehalka and Retd Sc Judge AK Ganguly accused under Sexual Harassment at Work Place law. Use Abuse or Misuse ! Discussion DD NEWS-Amnae Samnae

Tarun Tejpal of Tehalka and Retd Sc Judge AK Ganguly 
accused under 
Sexual Harassment at Work Place/Rape Laws.
Use Abuse or Misuse ! 

Discussion on DD NEWS-Amnae Samnae Telecasted on 29 NOV 2013 @ 10-10.30 pm

Panelists
Ms Jyoti Tiwari, Mens Right Activist, Save India Family Foundation
Ms Shubhi Chaturvedi, Asst Professor, Journalism Lady Shriram College
Ms Charu Wali, Member NCW
Mr SK Dua, Journalist and Rajya Sabha Member
Anchor - Sudhanshu Ranjan

A Must watch video where SIFF ideology (by Jyoti Tiwari) objurgates into the feminists who come to the edge of their seats to rattle and "Have strong objections to what is being said on panel".

Noticeably when these "Supporters of Mom Batti brigade" find themseleves exposed and on wrong foot they quickly hide behind their archiac magniloquent rhetorics and that to in "Angarezi" forgetting that they are on a Hindi Programme.

Kudos to Jyoti ji for all the efforts.
You rock 


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Saturday, February 9, 2013

Does India require Draconian wife centric Biased Marital rape laws ? Despite ongoing flagrant misuse of Women centric marital Draconian 498a and PWDVA !!.Debate in context with Justice Verma Commission recommendations on DD News | Aamnae Samnae | 08 Feb 2013

Does  India require Draconian Biased Marital rape laws favouring wife ? Despite ongoing flagrant misuse of Women centric marital Draconian 498a and PWDVA  !! 

Debate in context with Justice Verma Commission recommendations on DD News | Aamnae Samnae | 08 Feb 2013 Friday 10-10.30pm 

  • Anchored By Sudhanshu Ranjan

Guest panel included

 

PART 1/2 - Marital rape debate DD News | Aamnae Samnae 08 Feb 2013 10-10.30pm





  

PART 2/2 - Marital rape debate DD News | Aamnae Samnae 08 Feb 2013 10-10.30pm 






Do we really need a law on marital rape?


A must read article by Virag R Dhulia on Merinews

 The father of Taoism, Lao Tzu’s sayings seem to make much relevance today. He said, “The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.” This is exactly what is happening in the marital scenario in India. There are too many laws and all of them are unanimously loathed against men. None of them provide any kind of remedy to a distressed and victimized man. Instead, they leave no stone unturned in criminalizing an innocent man.

First we had the Section 125 CrPC which made men pay maintenance to their wives, children and parents irrespective of whether a man’s wife/children/parents take care of him or not; the man will be treated as a free ATM machine in all probability and would be forced to maintain the very people who would abuse him.
Then came the notorious and draconian dowry law aka the Section 498A of the Indian Penal Code which was non-bailable, cognizable and non-compoundable. Cutting long story short and putting it in layman’s terms, this section provided for immediate arrest of a husband and his family, based on the wife’s complaint even without trial or investigation. Enter the Domestic Violence Act (D.V. Act), which was so badly drafted that it left no scope for a man to prove him innocent therein, if a case is filed against him. Neither were any offenses properly defined nor was any care taken to abide by principles of natural justice in the law.
Interestingly, when the debate for D.V. Act was going on, woman organizations claimed that, now cases under section 498A would reduce and, D.V. Act would serve as a single window for all matrimonial disputes. However, it did not happen. As usual, the woman organizations were lying and fooling the society, which is more than ready to be fooled by them.

Every matrimonial dispute had both 498A and D.V. Act filed against the husband. This only increased the pressure on the husband to settle the case out of court which clearly meant paying hefty ransom money to the wife who would file false cases at her whim and fancy and then demand alimony to the tune of crores of rupees.

As if this unabated financial, legal and social exploitation of innocent men wasn’t enough, now the media and woman organizations are proposing yet another anti-male provision in the form of “Marital Rape”.

However, few very important questions need to be raised before we even think of bringing in the new legislation containing provisions for penalizing the husband when a wife complains of marital rape.

1.    When 498A and D.V. Act already have provisions for sexual abuse, what is the need of a separate law?
2.    Will it not lead to multiplicity of litigation in divorce cases increasing the burden on the already burdened courts?
3.    Will it not accelerate the formation of a marriage-less and father-less society?
4.    Why not scrap 498A and D.V. Act before bringing in the legislation?
5.    How did the issue of marital rape suddenly become so relevant for the media whence the whole issue of amending sexual assault laws began with the 16 December incident in Delhi which, in itself is a rarest of the rare cases?
6.    Will any woman organization care to answer the above questions to the satisfaction of all sections of the society?
7.    Are woman organizations meant only to shout and spread anti-male messages, and do fear-mongering and hate-mongering in the society?
8.    Are they not supposed to take some semblance of responsibility and accountability for the illogical demands they make and the disastrous consequences that enthrall upon the society, especially men?
9.    Who has given them the authority to waste tax payers’ hard earned money for satiating their personal vendetta against men?
10.  When they haven’t taken any responsibility for the misuse of Section 498A and D.V. Act in the past and taken any corrective action for the same, will it be a sane move to bring in yet another more draconian law and assume there wouldn’t be any misuse or social backlash against the same?

Questions are galore, answers are elusive. And while the woman organizations choose to answer these questions, if they may so wish to, I would like to bring up some more serious issues pertaining to marital rape.

Definition of Consent:

Firstly, the very technical definition of rape is sex against consent. Secondly, sex between spouses is a very integral part of marriage. So, invariably sex will be involved in a marriage and in the absence of a concrete and objective definition of consent with regards to marital rape, this provision can become a serious candidate for misuse.

Whenever, a woman would want to break out of marriage, all she needs to say is, “He forced himself onto me, saying that I am his wife and I have to submit to him”. It’s over, marital rape is registered and overnight, the husband becomes a rapist!

There would absolutely be no way to determine the correctness of the issue. Because in the absence of a definition of consent even physical injury is not needed; for when one defines the subjugation of consent subject to the essence of a relationship, quintessentially we are saying, consent is automatically provided and whimsically withdrawn.

Women organizations are not interested in intellectual debate around the issue, nor do they want to provide any tangible or scientific data to testify and support their claims. All they want to do is hooliganism on TV channels, make a lot of noise and get things done without taking any responsibility. It the collective responsibility of the society and the Govt. to stop promoting such socially disastrous elements, rather than giving into their histrionics and passing insane laws.

One more important and critical issue which has been missed out in the entire social discourse pertaining to the issue of marital rape is that of “Marital Rape of Men”.

When women organizations are saying that “Marriage is not a guarantee for lifetime sex”, then this premise applies to both men and women and who will protect men from forced sex in marriages i.e. who will protect men from marital rape in marriages?

1.    What if a wife forces a man to do oral sex against his wish?
2.    What if a wife forces a man to have sex with him in order to have children even when the man is not prepared to father them?
3.    What if a wife has more sex hunger than the man and she keeps on demanding sex from the man against his wish, mood and energy?
4.    What if a wife forces a man to have sex with him using derogatory terms like impotent, eunuch (hijra), gay, sissy, faggot, unmanly, etc.?
5.    What if a wife threatens to file a case of marital rape, or for that matter, any case, if he doesn’t satisfy her?
6.    What, if a man is forced to have sex with his wife under the threat that she will commit suicide if he doesn’t have sex with her?

Above scenarios is a tip of the iceberg of the various types of sexual abuse that men undergo in marriages and survive without protection. But if, the marital rape law is passed in its current form, as suggested by the woman organizations, then who will take care of male victims of rapes?

While the onus and responsibility of protecting men does not fall upon the women organizations, but it does fall upon the government, which is duty bound to protect every citizen and every class of citizens irrespective of gender, caste, creed and sexual orientation. And hence, the government must exercise extreme caution into blindly listening to these anti-male and male hater women organizations, who operate with a mindset of hatred towards men and seem to be more concerned of depriving men of their rights than to ensure women getting their rights.

Already, enough social damage has been done because the government blindly listened to these women organizations and millions of innocent men and women have been thrown behind bars under false cases of Section 498A. The government must not contribute to this figure more by bringing in further blind measures which are driven by stereotypes and assumptions.

And even if the government does so, it must provide a foolproof mechanism for preventing false cases and ensure that the law is not misused even in a single case. And the government must also provide compensation to those individuals who are victims of false cases and have been wrongly arrested.

All those families, whose members have been arrested wrongly, in false cases, must be given Rs. 50 Lakhs as compensation and this amount must be deducted from the budget allocated to women organizations as they are directly responsible for this injustice.

We are inviting extreme social dangers by making another anti-male law by including marital rape which does not even define consent properly. It’s time to make wise choices and not be driven by noise and ill-logic.


Marital Rape debate on CNNIBN programme on 05 Feb 2013 Face The Nation featuring Wasif Ali from SIFF Delhi

FTN: Does the Indian society still not recognise the sexual rights of wives?

Monday, April 4, 2011

Indian Census-Mindset analysis. Mrs Kukreja, Niladri blast Ranjana Kumari on Aamne samne

What is responsible for adverse sex ratios: Globalization, modernisation or social backwardness or flawed policies?

Indian Census-Mindset analysis Mrs Kukreja, Niladri blast Ranjana Kumari on Programme Aamne samne based on Discussions on latest issues and development on DD News channel on 03 April 2011 @ 10pm to 10.30pm

The Provisional Population Totals for Census 2011 was announced by the Census Commissioner, India

The data under debate is available at the following link

http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-prov-results/prov_rep_tables.html 

 

 

Media analysis

 

NDTV report

 

http://www.hindu.com/2011/04/02/stories/2011040258311400.htm

Mixed news from Census 2011

Sometimes, the good news is inextricably tied up with the bad. Provisional data from Census 2011 indicate that India's population might stabilise soon with the slowing down of the growth rate. From 21.54 per cent in Census 2001, the decadal population growth fell to 17.64 per cent in 2011. In absolute terms, 2001-2011 is the first decade (if 1911-1921 is excluded) to add a smaller number to the population than the preceding decade. The other good news is that literacy rate climbed from 64.83 per cent in 2001 to 74.04 per cent in 2011. While literacy among males rose from 75.26 per cent to 82.14 per cent, an increase of 6.9 points, it rose among females from 53.67 per cent to 65.46 per cent, an increase of 11.8 points. Of the additional literates, women (110,069,001) outnumber men (107,631,940). The gap of 21.59 percentage points between men and women in 2001 now stands reduced to 16.68 points. The full census data, to be released next year, should provide policymakers a comprehensive view of where India stands on key indicators of socio-economic development, set against the goal of creating a more egalitarian and just society.

It is no surprise that the overall sex ratio (number of females for every 1,000 males) has shown improvement, from 932.91 in 2001 to 940.27 in 2011; a good part of this can be explained by the greater natural longevity of women and improvements in health care over the years. Lurking in the provisional population data, however, is a deeply disturbing set of statistics: a steep fall in the child sex ratio, which measures the number of girls for every 1,000 boys in the 0-6 years age group. The sex ratio in the 0-6 age group has been continually declining since 1961 but the fall from 927.31 in 2001 to 914.23 in 2011 is the worst since Independence. This trend and scale of decline in rising India is shocking. It can only be explained by the deadly application of the ‘son preference' on a growing scale — through the instrumentality of sex-selective abortion, or female foeticide. Attempts to tackle female foeticide through bans on sex-determination tests imposed by the Pre-Natal Diagnostic Techniques (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) Act have been largely ineffective. In his essay ‘Many faces of gender inequality' ( Frontline, November 9, 2001), Amartya Sen drew on the 2001 Census data to highlight the fact that India split into two when it came to the sex ratio in the 0-6 age group: the South and the East had a decent ratio while the entire North and the West revealed a deeply disturbing picture. Even though the regional split concealed many micro-level variations, the contrast was striking. It would be interesting to see if the same regional pattern continues in the 2011 Census but the overall child sex ratio data, which throw sharp light on social mores, are depressing.

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http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/what2011-census-numbers-tell-us/430698/

What the 2011 Census numbers tell us

Nitin Desai /  April 2, 2011, 0:40 IST

The Census Commissioner has put out the provisional population totals as of March 1, 2011, for India and the states on March 31, 2011. There are now 1,210 million of us. The press release highlights some features of this, including the decline in the absolute number of children below six, the small improvement in the sex ratio in some states and the fact that the absolute decadal population growth is less than the previous decade. In this, the focus is on how the numbers stack up against expectations.

A comparison of the projections made by the registrar-general in May 2006 and the provisional results reported, shows that the population total is 17.7 million more than what was expected in 2006, a discrepancy of about 1.5 per cent or about a year’s population growth.

A big part of this difference is in Bihar, where the provisional population numbers are 6.1 million (i.e. 6.2 per cent) higher than what was projected. The tribal states of Jharkhand, Orissa and Chhattisgarh also show a similar pattern, with a discrepancy relative to the projections, which is significantly above the national average. West Bengal’s and Assam’s population numbers are about two per cent above the 2006 projections. The North-Eastern states (other than Nagaland and Tripura) are off the projection by a large margin, ranging from 8.6 per cent to 13.1per cent.

In this rather predictable story of higher than expected population growth in Eastern and Central India, the Northern region shows a different picture. Uttar Pradesh actually shows a provisional population number which is 1.2 million below the projection. The numbers for Punjab, Haryana, Chandigarh and Delhi are about two million below projection and the discrepancy in Rajasthan and Himachal Pradesh is below the national average.

In the Western region, the big difference is in Gujarat, where the provisional numbers are 1.4 million (i.e. 2.3 per cent) higher than the projections, while Maharashtra and Goa are actually below the projection. The big surprise is in the Southern region, where we thought the demographic transition was well under way. Tamil Nadu’s provisional population numbers are 4.7 million (i.e. 7 per cent) higher and Karnataka’s 1.7 million (i.e. 2.9 per cent) higher than the 2006 projection. However, Kerala shows a negative discrepancy of 1.2 million (i.e. 3.4 per cent) relative to the 2006 expectation and Andhra Pradesh is more or less spot on the projection.

We, of course, have to wait for the detailed results to see whether this is due to a slower than expected change in the vital rates or changes in migration patterns that were not anticipated in 2006. But a tentative conclusion from the numbers is that the demographic transition in the East is delayed by a few years and it will come more slowly in the South than what was anticipated. However, the story for the North and the West (with the exception of Gujarat) could well be different and more promising.